Two weeks ago, in the Mormon church case, the Arizona Supreme Court interpreted the clergy exception to the mandatory reporter statute. The supreme court noted that one of the many problems with the court of appeals’ decision was that the court conflated the statutory exception with the clergy-penitent privilege. Both the exception and the clergy-penitent privilege use the term confession, and the same definition applies. The clergy-penitent privilege was, however, irrelevant to the mandatory reporter exception.
This case is not about a duty to report. Here, Pastor Padron spoke with his co-pastor Rodriguez-Rameriz, his brother-in-law, and Padron recorded the conversation. Pastor Rodriguez-Rameriz acknowledged that he had abused Pastor Padron’s niece. Pastor Padron shared the recording with the victim’s family and other members. Pastor Rodriguez-Rameriz was prosecuted and sought to exclude the recording by claiming clergy-penitent privilege. The supreme court held the privilege did not apply. The conversation wasn’t a “confession,” but involved how the allegations would impact the congregation and the church, whether the victim’s family would report the abuse to law enforcement, and even whether Rodriguez-Rameriz should leave the state. Pastor Rodriguez-Rameriz was not there as a penitent seeking absolution, and Pastor Padron did not believe he was providing spiritual guidance or counseling. The privilege did not apply. We are reminded of Claudius’s rank offense: “My words fly up, my thoughts remain below. Words without thoughts never to heaven go.”